2018年11月2日 星期五

《余英時回憶錄》vs "Chatting with Henri Matisse: The Lost 1941 Interview"

我還沒買《余英時回憶錄》。Ben Chen先生寫的這篇,覺得他應該投稿"思想坦克"的本月專題徵文。
這本書,幸而在余先生生前由本尊重寫、出版,或許是幸事。訪問稿或口述歷史的版權歸屬,應該是事先就要"立法"。所以齊先生可以對《巨流河》的口述稿不滿意,自己重寫。
我猜余先生的情況類似。
余、齊兩先生都是文字表述的高手,所以可以自己來,寫出更讓自己滿意的作品。
Ben的提醒,讓我想起2013年美國Getty 中心出版的 "Chatting with Henri Matisse: The Lost 1941 Interview",我們從副標題知道,這是1941年的訪問Henri Matisse稿,Matisse先生不滿意或有顧忌 (譬如說,有人批評他自己的"畫論"說太多了,而繪畫與文字,可是完全不同類的媒體,幾乎無法互通。) 將他束之高閣,隱身約70年之後才被專家想起,從Henri Matisse基金會的檔案中找出來整理、出版。這本書稿的版權似乎是Henri Matisse的,而不是瑞士出版商的。我想,這可能是事先談討的。

Ben發表在facebook的:
拿到這本回憶錄翻了一下,
1,這本《回憶錄》的內容和涉及的範圍比想像中小。譬如都沒有談到自己帶過的博士生,也沒有提到六四之後他和民運人士的來往,以及和台灣報社、出版社的過往⋯⋯。
2,余英時序文中有交代,本來李懷宇訪談他多次,已經交出兩次余英時《訪談錄》的稿子。內容超過二十萬字。余英時以這個訪談為基礎,自己重寫成了這個《回憶錄》,李懷宇的名字只在書後以「企劃」出現。

李懷宇的稿件,不可能在大陸以完整的面目出版這是可以理解的。可是為什麼不在台灣或香港直接出版李懷宇所完成的書稿?這,我大惑不解。或許是,批評到了太多各界人物,一時不好發表?
即使是就余英時在序文說的:「這是將訪談的重點從我個人的生活和思想轉換為七、八十年來我個人所經歷的世變」而言,都太省略了。應該至少要有五倍以上的篇幅才比較能交待到一些不該略過的東西吧。



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Chatting with Henri Matisse: The Lost 1941 Interview

Henri Matisse
Interview by Pierre Courthion
Translated by Chris Miller
Edited by Serge Guilbaut
Independent Publisher has awarded this publication a Bronze medal in the National Fine Art category.
In 1941 the Swiss art critic Pierre Courthion interviewed Henri Matisse while the artist was in bed recovering from a serious operation. It was an extensive interview, seen at the time as a vital assessment of Matisse’s career and set to be published by Albert Skira’s then newly established Swiss press. After months of complicated discussions between Courthion and Matisse, and just weeks before the book was to come out—the artist even had approved the cover design—Matisse suddenly refused its publication. A typescript of the interview now resides in Courthion’s papers at the Getty Research Institute.
This rich conversation, conducted during the Nazi occupation of France, is published for the first time in this volume, where it appears both in English translation and in the original French version. Matisse unravels memories of his youth and his life as a bohemian student in Gustave Moreau’s atelier. He recounts his experience with collectors, including Albert C. Barnes. He discusses fame, writers, musicians, politicians, and, most fascinatingly, his travels. Chatting with Henri Matisse, introduced by Serge Guilbaut, contains a preface by Claude Duthuit, Matisse’s grandson, and essays by Yve-Alain Bois and Laurence Bertrand Dorléac. The book includes unpublished correspondence and other original documents related to Courthion’s interview and abounds with details about avant-garde life, tactics, and artistic creativity in the first half of the twentieth century.
Serge Guilbaut, a professor of art history at the University of British Columbia, Vancouver, writes extensively on modern and contemporary art. His books include How New York Stole the Idea of Modern Art: Abstract Expressionism, Freedom, and the Cold War (University of Chicago Press, 1983), Voir, ne pas voir, faut voir(Harmonia Mundi, 1993), and Los espejismos de la imagen en los lindes del siglo XXI (Akal Ediciones, 2009).

“An extensive interview in which Henri Matisse freely shares his thoughts on everything from drawing to depression.”
—Guardian
“This important book provides great insight into Matisse as an artist and individual, as well as into [Courthion’s] interviewing and editing process.”
—Publishers Weekly
“[A] comprehensively contextualised restoration of this rare and uninhibited testimonial, emerging from a moment that Matisse correspondingly called his ‘resurrection’ from near-death.”
—Burlington Magazine
“[Chatting with Henri Matisse] sheds light on [Matisse’s] process and his approach to color.”
—ArtInfo
“Full of reminiscences, aperçus, and surprising revelations from the master.”
—ARTnews
“[These interviews] give valuable insight into a major artist who was not only a painter but a sculptor, set designer and maker of memorable cut-paper collages.”
—South China Morning Post
368 pages
6 x 9 inches
23 color and 28 b/w illustrations
ISBN 978-1-60606-129-9
hardcover

Getty Publications
Imprint: Getty Research Institute

2013


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